See also 2 Nephi 6:14, 2 Nephi 21:11, and 2 Nephi 25:17. . 9 And I do this that I may prove unto many that I am the same yesterday, today, and forever; and that I speak forth my words according to mine own pleasure. It will be a time when the Lord will reestablish His covenants and promises with His people. The verse then tantalizes us by suggesting the eventual coming forth of yet a fourth record, that of "all nations of the earth." As long as we are "Bible bashing" with the sectarian world, why not bring up a verse written by the very same author who wrote the verse in Revelation 22: "And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written" (John 21:25). One of the definitions of. 2 Nephi 29: 14. ... 29 Wo be unto him that shall say: We have received the word of God, and we a need b … What are the perceptions of the Gentiles relative to the Bible and its origins? About 559–545 B.C. The translation of the book would be a miraculous event, part of the Lord’s “marvelous work and a wonder” (2 Nephi 27:26). See the commentary for the previous verse for reflections on the identity of the "Gentiles.". 2 Nephi 29 Songtext von The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints mit Lyrics, deutscher Übersetzung, Musik-Videos und Liedtexten kostenlos auf Songtexte.com 2 Nephi 9. 2 Nephi 29:5 O ye gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? And what thank they the Jews for the Bible which they receive from them? One verse of scripture suggests that "north countries" refers to a place beyond the four corners of the earth: " . List as many of these reasons as you can find. These chapters are slightly different from other Isaiah quotes. It is likely that the two nations are the Old World (Judah) and the New World (Joseph or Ephraim). 2 Nephi 29:13 The Jews, Nephites, and lost tribes shall have each other's words. A Bible! 1 But behold, there shall be many-at that day when I shall proceed to do a marvelous work among them, that I may remember my covenants which I have made unto the children of men, that I may set my hand again the second time to recover my people, which are of the house of Israel; verse 1 The construction of this verse is unusual in that most of it consists of a very long parenthetical expression which begins following "there shall be many"-and extends through verse 2 into verse 3. . Comparison of 2 Nephi 27 and Isaiah 29 This is a side-by-side comparison of 2 Nephi 27 and Isaiah 29. 2 Ne. verse 9 "that I may prove unto many" It should be obvious that even when a truth is established according to the law of witnesses and is thus "proven," it may well not be proven in a tangible worldly or scientific sense. Not only do we have the Bible and the Book of Mormon and the other standard works of the Church, but we as a people look forward to additional sacred scripture which will eventually be restored to the earth (D&C 93:18; D&C 107:57, Ether 4:7). It turned out to be, however, a gathering that did not fully succeed. 2 Nephi 6. Jarom. I was being prompted before finding this blog that I needed to focus my studies more on the Book of Mormon. While we may have come to regard them, as a culture, to be refractory to the gospel message until the Lord's second coming, we must love them and never cease our efforts to win them over to the fulness of the gospel-to "recover them.". TG Seed of Abraham. When Joseph finished his inspired revision of the Old Testament, he inquired of the Lord on March 9, 1833, as to whether or not he should translate or revise these apocryphal books. A Book of Mormon! It is obvious that the central thrust of this verse is that the Bible and the Book of Mormon function together to satisfy the law of witnesses. Another more subtle but similar danger lurks for those of us in the Church who feel that our knowledge of our standard works is adequate or sufficient. TG Israel, Gathering of; Lands of Inheritance. 1 Ne. The honest judge will give full value to all for their good works and will not overlook the other" (The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball. It could refer to the time when each and every one of the spirit children of God-those who belong to our round of creation-has been dispatched to this mortal earth to one of the other worlds in this round of the Father's creation. 22:4; 2 Ne. Nephi frequently borrowed the language of Isaiah 29 to describe his own visions and prophecies about the latter-days. Joseph Smith said one of the principal reasons the wicked will be cleansed from the earth is to make room "from the lost tribes of Israel from the north country" (TPJS, 1973 edition, 17). that they shall write the words which I speak unto them". Omni. The only individual to whom the Lord is able to "prove" anything is he who is responsive to the Spirit. TG Bible; Book of Mormon. We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible. Modern revelation indicates that the massive immigration pouring across the Lord's mighty highway will saturate all of the arable land and require the settling of both deserts and barren regions. See the commentary for 1 Nephi 14:1-2; 1 Nephi 14:8. (2 Nephi 25:23–24, 26, 29) This sure knowledge of Christ, had by the Lehites, was tied to the bedrock of the personal testimonies of at least four prophets who had actually seen the Savior. Are you really resisting the concept that revelations in addition to the Bible should come forth? 3 The book would come forth with the words of “them which have slumbered” (v. 6). Here we learn that wherever the ten tribes are, they have prophets among them who will lead them in their gathering. "And what thank they the Jews for the Bible which they receive from them?". 2 Nephi 31. Thou fool that shall say, a Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. Again, this term refers simply to scattered Israel, wherever they may be found upon the earth. Most members of the church are all too familiar with this principle. Just how grateful are the Gentiles for the Bible they received from the Jews? 2 Nephi 29. 28 O that cunning plan of the evil one! TG Restoration of the Gospel. It would appear that the more spiritual elements were quickened sufficiently to be transferred to a location, perhaps the "outmost parts of heaven" referred to by Moses who promised they would also be gathered back in the due time of the Lord. One condition for this proper establishment is that the truth satisfies the law of witnesses. A Bible! 3 Nephi 1:13. 2 Nephi 29:6-8 Thou fool that shall say, a Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. Have ye obtained a Bible save it were by the Jews? 2 And also, that I may remember the promises which I have made unto thee, Nephi, and also unto thy father, that I would remember your seed; and that the words of your seed should proceed forth out of my mouth unto your seed; and my words shall hiss forth unto the ends of the earth, for a standard unto my people, which are of the house of Israel; verse 2 "the promises which I have made unto thee, Nephi, and also unto thy father" The Lord extends the Abrahamic covenant to the posterity of the Book of Mormon people. 2 Nephi 10. What are the "two nations"? Joseph Fielding Smith "In answering the question of the lawyer, 'Master, which is the great commandment in the law?' In any case this great "second" or final gathering is now in progress as Israel gathers to the gospel and to the stakes of Zion. That blessing fell to Nephi, to whom Jacob and Joseph were to look for leadership (see 1 Nephi 2:21-22; 3:29; 2 Nephi 2:3; 3:25; 5:19-20). . An alternate suggestion has been made regarding the identity of the record of the lost tribes of Israel. These are the written records of "the Jews" (the Bible), "the Nephites" (the Book of Mormon), and "the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away"-obviously the ten lost tribes. It might be argued that this latter-day gathering is the third or fourth gathering. December 24, 2015. The Bible is not the final word of God. 10:14; 1 Ne. 3:16; Moses 1:40. 2 Nephi 15. 1 But behold, there shall be many—at that day when I shall proceed to do a amarvelous work among them, that I may remember my bcovenants which I have made unto the children of men, that I may set my hand again the csecond time to recover my people, which are of the house of Israel; 2 And also, that I may remember the promises which I have made unto thee, Nephi, and also unto thy father, that I would remember your seed; and that the awords of your seed should proceed forth out of my mouth unto your seed; and my words shall bhiss forth unto the cends of the earth, for a dstandard unto my people, which are of the house of Israel; 3 And because my words shall hiss forth—many of the Gentiles shall say: A aBible! verse 14 It is obvious that the latter-day gathering and restoration of Israel will also include a gathering, into one, of the three major scriptural testimonies of Christ. In doing so, he was not quoting from Isaiah but 51:5; 1 Ne. Edited by Edward L. Kimball, [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft], 1982, 46). However, this phrase makes clear that the old saw, "Ignorance of the law is no excuse," is ultimately applicable. shall say (Illustration): Chart: The Ways of the Devil: 2 Nephi 28:3-30. The Lord refers to the people of the latter day. The Lord is still condemning those latter-day "Gentiles" who claim to accept the Bible yet maintain prejudices against the Jews, the very people that gave us the Bible. This law simply stated is: "In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established" (1 Corinthians 13:1; see also Matthew 18:16; D&C 6:28; D&C 6:30; D&C 6:128:3). Is it not logical to expect a corresponding record to be provided for people of the New World? 2 Nephi 29: 8. But behold, I will return all these things upon your own heads; for I the Lord have not forgotten my people. A Bible! These three records are to be shared with the other groups. TG Scriptures, Preservation of; Scriptures, Writing of. 2 Nephi 29. Do you not know that all people of the earth are my children and are entitled to hear my words? In it Nephi included a revelation he received from the Lord showing the reaction of many latter-day gentiles to the addition of another book of scripture. "marvelous work" This expression originated with the prophet Isaiah and is found in Isaiah 29:13-14. 2 Nephi 19 (Isaiah Text & Commentary): Chapter 19 Note** Verse 19:1 is the last verse of Isaiah chapter 8 in the Hebrew Bible and in the German Bible. 1) “A … powerful testimony to the importance of the Book of Mormon is to note where the Lord placed its coming forth in the timetable of the unfolding Restoration. The construction of this verse is unusual in that most of it consists of a very long parenthetical expression which begins following "there shall be many"-and extends through verse 2 into verse 3. Before listing those suggestions, perhaps it would be appropriate to mention a few things about "the apocrypha.". The verse then tantalizes us by suggesting the eventual coming forth of yet a fourth record, that of "all nations of the earth." 2 Nephi 2:24-25. See especially 2 Nephi 29:10–14: “Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written. . Prophets have suggested that the ten tribes will be gathered in from "the north countries." But behold, there shall be many—at that day when I shall proceed to do a marvelous work among them, that I may remember my covenants which I have made unto the children of men, that I may set my hand again the second time to recover my people, which are of the house of Israel; Evidence. Some have suggested that the time of Christ's mortal ministry constituted a "gathering." Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. 2 Nephi 28:3 The churches which are built up, and not unto the Lord . Have not sought to recover them--as in have not tried to help them return to Israel and displace the Palestinians living there? Read 2 Nephi 29:7-14. All who read the scriptures are familiar of the concept of God's technique of removing large bodies of people from the earth to some place especially prepared for them. In Joseph Smith's King James Bible, which he was using to create his inspired revision, there were fourteen books between the Old Testament and the New Testament known as the Old Testament Apocrypha. In that marvelous manifestation, the Prophet Joseph Smith learned the true nature of God and that God had a work for him to do. 4 But thus saith the Lord God: O fools, they shall have a Bible; and it shall proceed forth from the Jews, mine ancient covenant people. About 559–545 B.C. These are 2 Nephi 26:15-16; 2 Nephi 26:18 which correspond to Isaiah 29:3-5. Know ye not that the testimony of two nations is a witness unto you that I am God, that I remember one nation like unto another? What are the perceptions of the Gentiles relative to the Bible and its origins? But behold, all things have been done in the wisdom of him who knoweth all... LDS Scripture of the Day January 1, 2017. This video is unavailable. We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible.” This is one of the great missionary scriptures. "for out of the books which shall be written I will judge the world", It may be true that a man who has not heard the law or had a chance to understand it will be judged lightly until he had that chance (. In this setting, the Book of Mormon comes forth by miraculous means and through an unsophisticated prophet to provide guidance to those who have faith. 17:40; 3 Ne. 37:17 (15–20); 1 Ne. We spent a lot of time practicing our presentation for zone conference. We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible. But to be learned is good if they hearken unto the counsels of God. Revelation has not ceased. . Do they acknowledge the diligence of those righteous Jews, the Jewish prophets, through whose efforts and sacrifice we have a Bible today? Book of Mormon: 2 Nephi 29-30 Are we involved in the Marvelous Work? 2 Nephi 29. God will proceed to do "a marvelous work" (the Book of Mormon) and remember Nephi's seed (the Mormons), and the words of Nephi's seed will proceed out of God's mouth. The implication seems to be that the record of the Jews, the Bible, contains revelation intended primarily for the people of the Old World. He will remember His people again, especially the Nephites and the lost 10 tribes of Israel. In latter-day scripture we read: "And they who are in the north countries shall come in remembrance before the Lord; and their prophets shall hear his voice, and shall no longer stay themselves" (D&C 133:26). 2 Nephi 24. verse 8 "murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word?" As a result of this migration they eventually settled in Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Iceland, Holland, England, and France. 2 For I, Nephi, have not taught them many things concerning the manner of the Jews; for their a works were works of darkness, and their doings were doings of abominations. From chapters 6-10 they quote much of Isaiah, Nephi even explains how the words of Isaiah will slowly come to understanding as time goes on… for they are difficult to understand without the spirit. 2 Nephi 4. 2 Nephi 30. verse 5 Here is a sobering reminder of the persecutions the Jews have received at the hands of the "Gentiles" since the final scattering of the Jews by the Romans in AD 70. . It has reference to the restored gospel in the latter days. "murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word?". 2 Nephi 3. TG Israel, Gathering of; Israel, Restoration of. TG Jesus Christ, Judge. 2 Nephi 2 Chapter 2 Redemption comes through the Holy Messiah—Freedom of choice (agency) is essential to existence and progression—Adam fell that men might be—Men are free to choose liberty and eternal life. 2 Nephi 2:14 Things to act and things to be acted upon. It serves as a natural transition from chapter 8 (2 Nephi 18). 2 Nephi Chapter 29 « Previous Next » Book of Mormon Annotations; Chapter 29 . He says: "Art thou not it which hath dried the sea, the waters of the great deep; that hath made the depths of the sea a way for the ransomed to pass over?" Isaiah 29:13, 2 Nephi 27:25. It is especially valuable because it has been hidden in the earth for centuries, and it still contains its original purity and plainness. He is also condemning those who feel that the Bible alone is sufficient scripture to settle all questions of religion. The irony is that we all know we can’t lie to God. Some scriptures describe their scattered exile as being in "the north," using metaphorical language from the perspective of the rest of Israel, who last saw them being taken away in that direction (Jeremiah 16:15; Zechariah 2:6; D&C 110:11; 133:26). 27:26. 2 Nephi 26. We have discussed previously that many of these Israelites, those descended from the ten tribes, have been thoroughly scattered throughout other nations of the world and do not exist in a discrete and separate body. 2 Nephi 29: 12: “For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it; and … Continue reading 2 Nephi 29: 12 → It should be obvious that even when a truth is established according to the law of witnesses and is thus "proven," it may well not be proven in a tangible worldly or scientific sense. These also must be eventually gathered out from among the nations (A Glimpse into the Future, Chapter 1, The Great Last Gathering). The Jews, Nephites, and lost tribes shall have each other's words. These apostate characteristics have infiltrated the world's churches and every institution of human endeavor. … And I will show unto them that fight against my word and against my people, who are of the house of Israel, that I am God, and that I covenanted with Abraham that I would remember his seed forever.” Whatever the meaning of this phrase, the meaning of the verse is clear: God is eternal (Moses 1:38), and he will never cease to provide us with his word. But just as Nephi’s vision in 1 Nephi 14, and just as Isaiah’s prophecies in 2 Nephi 23 and 24 all end in the victory of God, Nephi concludes his exposition of Isaiah’s revelations on a set of very promising notes. No phrase better sums up how we should treat our Maker. "the lost tribes of Israel shall have the words of the Nephites and the Jews" The expression "lost tribes" is found in only two verses of scripture, here and in 3 Nephi 17:4. Do they remember the travails, and the labors, and the pains of the Jews, and their diligence unto me, in bringing forth salvation unto the Gentiles? Most latter-day saints are not familiar with the apocryphal Old Testament books because they were eliminated from the King James Bible and all protestant Bibles in the early 1800s. And when the two nations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also. His rationalization might sound something like: "A Book of Mormon! . After all, the keys of gathering were given by Moses to Peter, James, and John on the Mount of Transfiguration at that time (Matthew 17:1-9). [John A. Tvedtnes, "Firstborn in the Wilderness," in Pressing Forward with the Book of Mormon , F.A.R.M.S., 1999, pp. The fundamental problem is hypocrisy, which is a form of dishonesty: pretending to believe in God, saying the right things and appearing to be religious when in fact, your heart isn’t in it. . 3:12; 33:10 (10–11). 2 Ne. Furthermore they would pronounce a malediction upon anyone who would contend otherwise, often quoting Revelation 22:18: "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book" (even most orthodox Christians today admit the apostle John had in mind only his own book when he wrote this verse-see also Deuteronomy 4:2). Perhaps the record of the lost tribes will be the same. This chapter describes Satan's latter-day attack on the Book of Mormon. 8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? As a result, “they…that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine” (Isaiah 29:24, 2 Nephi 27:35). The real meaning of the scripture is that the commandments of God should not be altered. Ezek. This book indicates that the ten tribes, after they had been taken captive into Assyria, eventually decided to migrate north to a land which had never before been inhabited: Those are the ten tribes, which were carried away prisoners out of their own land at the time of Osea, the king, whom Salmanasar, the king of Assyria, led away captive, and he carried them over the waters [Euphrates and Tigris Rivers] and so came they into another land. 20:27; Abr. This represents the fifth time that Nephi has mentioned this doctrine. Tag: 2 Nephi 29 What I learned. 2 Ne 29:3-4 The term “Bible” is an interesting choice here since the Bible did not yet exist as a single compiled book until the fourth century CE. What to do with misguided children? 2 Nephi 5. The record then continues: "And an highway shall be cast up in the midst of the great deep" (D&C 133:27). Certainly every modern-day missionary has encountered this objection to our Church's non-biblical standard works. Helaman. 10:8 (8, 20); D&C 133:8. 5 O ye Gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? 2 Nephi 7. "end of man" This verse is a statement on the constancy and eternal nature of God. Perhaps Jesus's phrase "from one end of heaven to the other" corresponds to Moses's "out unto the outmost parts of heaven.". This law simply stated is: "In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established" (, "when the two nations shall run together". 2 Nephi 32. that they shall write the words which I speak unto them" If one people to whom the Lord has spoken has been commanded to record at least some of which the Lord has said, isn't it logical to suppose that others to whom the Lord has spoken will also be asked to write it down? 2 Nephi 6. Without this long parenthetical expression, the first sentence of this chapter would read something like, "But behold, there shall be many Gentiles [who] shall say: A Bible! One thought on “ 2 Nephi 29: 6-7 ” dan says: August 11, 2010 at 1:15 PM This blog has been a feast. God will bring forth a book that will help people see clearly. Words of Mormon. 2 Nephi 2. These three records are, by the way, another example of the law of witnesses (see the commentary for verse 8). The meaning of the phrase "end of man" is unclear. 2 Nephi 29:7 I think this is a good thing to remember, as nations and individuals. Again, the phrase "all men, both in the east and in the west, and in the north, and in the south" and the phrase "islands of the sea" refer to scattered Israel wherever they may be found. 2 Nephi 9. See the commentary for, This is the Book of Mormon which will, in the terminology of Isaiah, "hiss forth unto the ends of the earth, for a standard unto my people, which are of the house of Israel." February 13, 2020. Also contained in this verse are instructions as to how we ought to regard the Jews today. Know ye not that I, the Lord your God, have created all men, and that I remember those who are upon the isles of the sea; and that I rule in the heavens above and in the earth beneath; and I bring forth my word unto the children of men, yea, even upon all the nations of the earth? "when the two nations shall run together" What are the "two nations"? Then they migrated en masse to the north about 65 BC. 2 Nephi 29–30 2 Nephi 30:5–6 — Lehi’s Posterity Receive the Gospel. To solve this problem the Lord says: "And in the barren deserts there shall come forth pools of living water; and the parched ground shall no longer be a thirsty land" (D&C 133:28). 13:40 (39–42); 2 Ne. 2 Nephi 29: 14: “And it shall come to pass that my people, which are of the house of Israel, shall be gathered home unto the lands of their possessions; and my word also shall be gathered in one. See also, "the promises which I have made unto thee, Nephi, and also unto thy father", The Lord extends the Abrahamic covenant to the posterity of the Book of Mormon people. 2 Nephi 28. ", This expression originated with the prophet Isaiah and is found in, "my covenants which I have made unto the children of men", This phrase refers to the Abrahamic covenant the details of which can be reviewed in the commentary for, "that I may set my hand again the second time to recover my people", This same expression is used a few times in the book of Second Nephi. This particular verse leaves open the possibility that several other records may have been written and may yet come forth. 2 Nephi 29:12 For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto all nations of the earth and they shall write it. The Bible suggests, for example, that their return will be so spectacular that it will make the crossing of the Red Sea pale by comparison. In speaking of some of the books out of which the world will be judged, President Spencer W. Kimball offered the following insight: "The Book of Life (see Revelation 20:12) will show the earthly activities of all of us, and the book of the angels will give the entire story of every man and what he did in the light and in the shadows, in the open and in the corners, all that is said in the secret places and from the housetops, all that was thought and expressed, whether good or bad. Nephi puts them in charge of teaching the people. If one people to whom the Lord has spoken has been commanded to record at least some of which the Lord has said, isn't it logical to suppose that others to whom the Lord has spoken will also be asked to write it down? Miracles, spiritual gifts, and revelation are always available to the true followers of Christ. "the words of your seed" This is the Book of Mormon which will, in the terminology of Isaiah, "hiss forth unto the ends of the earth, for a standard unto my people, which are of the house of Israel." A possible extra-terrestrial location of this group is also suggested by Jesus's proclamation: "He shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other" (Matthew 24:31, italics added). Between the "dashes" in 2 Nephi 29:1 and 2 Nephi 29:3, the Lord reveals to Nephi several reasons why He will proceed "to do a marvelous work among them" (the Gentiles). Know ye not that I, the Lord your God, have created all men, and that I remember those who are upon the bisles of the sea; and that I rule in the heavens above and in the cearth beneath; and I bring forth my dword unto the children of men, yea, even upon all the nations of the earth? The only thing that preceded it was the First Vision. It is likely that the two nations are the Old World (Judah) and the New World (Joseph or Ephraim). God is going to make another Bible - The Book of Mormon. . This combined scriptural record will "show unto them that fight against my word . The Bible is not the final word of God. The City of Enoch was taken up and perhaps even that portion of earth on which the city was located. Nay; but ye have cursed them, and have hated them, and have not sought to recover them. The Lord also promises that the seed of Lehi and Nephi will be preserved even to the last days and have an opportunity to hear the words of the Book of Mormon (3 Nephi 3:23). 2 Nephi 29: 14 “And it shall come to pass that my people, which are of the house of Israel, shall be gathered home unto the lands of their possessions; and my word also shall be gathered in one.